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the civil rights not just of people in south africa but around the world. sadly, that struggle still goes on. >> reporter: nelson mandela's death is front page news here in london. take a look at some of the headlines. here is the son, says president of the world. the london times" simply has a photograph of him gazing off into the distance. and then the daily mail with the headline "death of a colossus." many people in london waking up to these headlines, waking up to this news and they've come here to the south africa house to pay tribute. they've been coming steadily all day long. there's a two-hour line to sign a book of condolences. they're singing and playing songs and dancing in tribute to his life and legacy. so a real celebration here of any son mandela in london. suzanne and michael. >> erin mclaughlin. london was the scene of daily protests during the times of apartheid, too. permanent protests there in london. all right. well, the world lost an icon and the world likes to claim nelson mandela, but of course, he has a family. his family lost a hu
the civil rights not just of people in south africa but around the world. sadly, that struggle still goes on. >> reporter: nelson mandela's death is front page news here in london. take a look at some of the headlines. here is the son, says president of the world. the london times" simply has a photograph of him gazing off into the distance. and then the daily mail with the headline "death of a colossus." many people in london waking up to these headlines, waking up to this...
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rights it was martin luther king. only an individual there were only a couple individuals i can think of paul robeson w.b. to boys. a mouth a man who you know would go to the united nations and say that discrimination against african-americans negroes in those days was a global issue in the united nations should get involved and but it didn't really register with us what what happened was that south africa in particular the demonstration it kicked off at the south african embassy. if we recognized our it's not a word our global name we recognized look our struggle really is a global struggle because simultaneous to these civil rights struggle domesticity here in the united states there is you know there was the the the fight against colonist on the continent of africa and south africa was a major a major part of that and so we became global and then you remember college campuses you probably remember this remember we start talking about disinvestment you know and we're you know most of us didn't have a dime in the sto
rights it was martin luther king. only an individual there were only a couple individuals i can think of paul robeson w.b. to boys. a mouth a man who you know would go to the united nations and say that discrimination against african-americans negroes in those days was a global issue in the united nations should get involved and but it didn't really register with us what what happened was that south africa in particular the demonstration it kicked off at the south african embassy. if we...
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we recognized look our struggle really is a global struggle because simultaneous to these civil rights struggle domesticity here in the united states there is you know there was the the the fight against colonist on the continent of africa and south africa was a major a major part of that and so we became global and then you remember college campuses you probably remember this remember we start talking about disinvestment you know and we're you know most of us didn't have a dime in the stock market began everywhere colleges look at colleges and we didn't really know what that you know what all of it meant and people began to couldn't make their relationship. to people thousands of miles away yeah i think it inspires movements to this day and so i think that yes i think that absolutely it doesn't aspire moments to this day it connects all of us we see and then it sort of goes to what martin luther king said at the time that where we were it's a small planet where a village global is now out of that well and speaking to that this is what nelson mandela had to say as he got out of prison
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he stood for the civil rights, not just people in south africa but people around the world and his legacy goes on. >> reporter: people here continuing to leave notes. one of them read, thank you for creating a pathway to freedom for all of us, a message that is being heard here and in other countries as well. michaela? >> very moving indeed. erin mclaughlin, thank you for that. >> the tributes are pouring in from all over the world this morning. president obama had some very, very poignant words to honor the late president of south africa. he actually invoked words that were used at president lincoln's funeral. >> he no longer belongs to us. he belongs to the ages. through his fierce dignity and bending will to sacrifice his own freedom for the freedom of others, madiba transformed south africa and moved all of us. his journey from a prisoner to a president embodied the presence that human beings and countries can change for the better. his commitment to transfer pour and reconcile for those who jailed him set an example that all humanity took inspire to whether the lives of nations or ou
he stood for the civil rights, not just people in south africa but people around the world and his legacy goes on. >> reporter: people here continuing to leave notes. one of them read, thank you for creating a pathway to freedom for all of us, a message that is being heard here and in other countries as well. michaela? >> very moving indeed. erin mclaughlin, thank you for that. >> the tributes are pouring in from all over the world this morning. president obama had some very,...
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civil rights movement. but when mandela was in prison, he went in '61/'62, martin luther king spoke and described south african racism as the worst in the world, and he said even denying blacks the basic right of nonviolent protests. and, of course, you know, everybody's comparing mandela to gandhi and martin luther king, although, you know, neither of them was in favor of violence. but nelson mandela went to violence not to take over the country but to get the white minority regime to listen to the demands of black people. but even early in '64, martin luther king was calling for nelson mandela's release. in 1965, he spoke in london and called for internal sanctions. he echoed that in the '80s. and, of course, as you know, the free south africa movement in which president obama spoke about being a part of as a young student was very much a part of the ultimate number of things that brought an end to apartheid in south africa. i was here in '85. and as you said, it was a gruesome, gruesome period. and i wen
civil rights movement. but when mandela was in prison, he went in '61/'62, martin luther king spoke and described south african racism as the worst in the world, and he said even denying blacks the basic right of nonviolent protests. and, of course, you know, everybody's comparing mandela to gandhi and martin luther king, although, you know, neither of them was in favor of violence. but nelson mandela went to violence not to take over the country but to get the white minority regime to listen...
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he stood for the civil rights, not just people in south africa but people around the world and his legacy goes on. >> reporter: people here continuing to stop to pay their respects. some shedding tears. one note read, quote. thank you for creating a pathway to freedom for all of us, a message that is being heard around the world. michaela? >> thank you, erin. so many felt he was fighting for their freedom as well. freedom from poverty, oppression, whatever. >> i met some kids in south africa that said he is like the madiba. they feel like someone they have a personal connection with and vital to them. >> he was known for visiting dignitaries, he would go around and greet the workers first to shake sure he spent time with them first. >>> in the united states our country's leaders past and present. we heard from president obama last night. let's go to the white house now and hear from brianna keilar. this was a personal moment for barack obama who talked about the influence of nelson mandela when he was a young man. >> reporter: that's right, john. it was just huge. president obama was 19 y
he stood for the civil rights, not just people in south africa but people around the world and his legacy goes on. >> reporter: people here continuing to stop to pay their respects. some shedding tears. one note read, quote. thank you for creating a pathway to freedom for all of us, a message that is being heard around the world. michaela? >> thank you, erin. so many felt he was fighting for their freedom as well. freedom from poverty, oppression, whatever. >> i met some kids...
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my next guest has personal connections to the civil rights icon. he was an anti-apartheid activist and every week for almost 30 years he went behind the prison walls to visit the man who would become south africa's first black president. cedric, thanks for joining us. share with our viewers some of the memories that you have, memories of your cousin, the support you gave him during the decades that he spent behind bars. >> well, thank you, wolf. i followed madiba, nelson mandela's life from the early '60s when i was a student at the university. and actually, i want to turn first to another relative, my uncle, harold hanson was a prominent trial lawyer in south africa and part of mandela's team at the trial of the -- the trials. and he actually gave the plea bargain to mitigate sentence. and then mandela's book, "long walk to freedom," he talks about how harold hanson actually got him to change his final statement, which is now so iconic, to tone it down perhaps. and he reminded the judge, hanson did, that the africans had their own violent struggle
my next guest has personal connections to the civil rights icon. he was an anti-apartheid activist and every week for almost 30 years he went behind the prison walls to visit the man who would become south africa's first black president. cedric, thanks for joining us. share with our viewers some of the memories that you have, memories of your cousin, the support you gave him during the decades that he spent behind bars. >> well, thank you, wolf. i followed madiba, nelson mandela's life...
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the disabled people of america are fighting hard for our civil rights. nelson mandela has done a lot of work things considered for things like slavery. we have a topic similar. you are not entitled to the minimum wage here in america. we are specifically exempt. we are so inspired by the work of nelson mandela, we try to continue in that legacy. we want to make it so that our people, our disabled people, are no longer trapped in these workshops. host: why the blind exempt from the minimum wage? caller: the fair labor standards act of 1938 specifically exempts us. the idea is that disabled people are supposed to be inherently less productive. we are less than people. there are a lot of explanations. some people think they are doing by employing disabled people at a penny an our. it is exploiting us. whenever go on to real productive life. we are pushing hard to try to get that change. we want to be able to earn minimum wage for our work, or not work at all. disabled people have the the cassidy to be -- have the thatity to make the change nelson mandela ma
the disabled people of america are fighting hard for our civil rights. nelson mandela has done a lot of work things considered for things like slavery. we have a topic similar. you are not entitled to the minimum wage here in america. we are specifically exempt. we are so inspired by the work of nelson mandela, we try to continue in that legacy. we want to make it so that our people, our disabled people, are no longer trapped in these workshops. host: why the blind exempt from the minimum wage?...
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. >> reporter: the children are quick to connect mandela to american civil rights heroes. >> i learned that he was like martin luther king. >> bringing their personal experiences to the classroom. >> one time i walked in a store and i see people treated me differently because i'm mexican. they are aware and they see it. >> it's pretty cool because of what he did. he didn't do anything to stop segregation, then it would get worse and worse. >> he fought for people's rights. >> they love having people to look up to. >> mandela's life striking a chord in these young mines after just one morning. after that tricky ne nouveau n vocabulary. >> partite. >> apartheid. >> yes. >> the los angeles skyline could be changing. two towers are planned to rise above the city's dwarfing the capital records buildings. but beneath the surface of the earth, jennifer london joins me with more. >> reporter: two words: earth quake. the capital records building say they're plan to go build the tours on an active "fault line." this after a state leading geologist said that l.a. is overdue for an earthquake. >>
. >> reporter: the children are quick to connect mandela to american civil rights heroes. >> i learned that he was like martin luther king. >> bringing their personal experiences to the classroom. >> one time i walked in a store and i see people treated me differently because i'm mexican. they are aware and they see it. >> it's pretty cool because of what he did. he didn't do anything to stop segregation, then it would get worse and worse. >> he fought for...
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rights around the world. fellow south africans, you know, nelson mandela brought them together as well. he had been in and out of the hospital for months. in june, he was admitted to a facility for a lung infection. we'll be here all evening long. people are coming here. in fact, a man, moments ago, dropped off flowers here. he just stood. he didn't say anything. he stood, looked at the statue and calmly walked away. live here on massachusetts avenue, outside the south african embassy, i'm shomari stone, news 4. >> thank you. >> we heard the little girl mention his family. he is survived by a wife, three of his children and a couple dozen grandchildren and great grandchildren. >> they were by his bedside late this afternoon. >> we have been seeing the live pictures of nelson mandela's statue this evening. tom sherwood was there when the statue was unveiled this past september. it's a shame to see the fence and the barbed wire. >> i hope it will move some of the reconstruction, the embassy is being rebuilt. if
rights around the world. fellow south africans, you know, nelson mandela brought them together as well. he had been in and out of the hospital for months. in june, he was admitted to a facility for a lung infection. we'll be here all evening long. people are coming here. in fact, a man, moments ago, dropped off flowers here. he just stood. he didn't say anything. he stood, looked at the statue and calmly walked away. live here on massachusetts avenue, outside the south african embassy, i'm...
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right narrative onslaught that's going on the global are arab countries for example an arab civilization so what went down in libya was a massive us french backed invasion us troops all over the place committing massive atrocities that were all covered up and did they achieve their aims yes they remove gadhafi even though he was our man even though we had business deals with because the feet throughout the two thousand and five six seven years and they destroyed the country destroyed the infrastructure absolutely destroyed the systems that could be had put in place and whether you like the guy or not it created some systems in his own country that some autonomy that were effective and useful and the people of libya many people in libya appreciated the guy and i'm not calling him a hero in a sense of the word i think he was just another one of these guys who should never be given a country to control but line him up next to the real criminals in the world like him henry kissinger or truly do more loops the man who is behind the president of congo today or behind. the president of rwanda t
right narrative onslaught that's going on the global are arab countries for example an arab civilization so what went down in libya was a massive us french backed invasion us troops all over the place committing massive atrocities that were all covered up and did they achieve their aims yes they remove gadhafi even though he was our man even though we had business deals with because the feet throughout the two thousand and five six seven years and they destroyed the country destroyed the...
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it has to do with the right to counsel in civil case. i will tell you 3 stories. if i give you the statistics, if i sit here and tell you 6 out of 10 middle class people who go to court do not have a lawyer or 8 out of 10 do not have a lawyer. i have diminished those people and in this culture that's one way to take care of the problem because it's almost gone when you hear it. i will tell you 3 stories. a us citizen born and raised in hawthorne california with a limited mental capacity, having lived in the united states, living with his mother and 3 other kids. got arrested on a small trespass. he entered what i can call a criminal factory known as the main jail in los angeles where they process and you can almost feel bad for them but not quite. they process thousands of people. people with hispanic names are called out to be interviewed. he did not have the capacity to explain what i just told you was his background. he was on a bus. he went to immigration service. he was on a bus. he was taken to tijuana and released. no lawyer in that process. every religion
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rights-type cases. but where there is a private party that is alleged to have forgot the government, -- alleged to have ripped off the government, that is the false claims act. host: a few issues that the false claims act. i -- that the false claims act prohibits. host: that according to the justice department. we are talking to colette matzzie about the false claims act, some of its history, and some of its applications today. matthew is up next on our line for democrats. thanks for calling "washington journal." caller: i would like to ask about the whistleblower law. can it be used for the tarp and banks that are too big to fail and can it be used for iraq, afghanistan, and syria, the eu building that we did, and the $12 trillion deficit caused? guest: well, in that context, taking the war context first, there is -- you know, there have been more cases, there will continue to be more cases. it is likely there are cases under investigation. ae typical were case involves private defense contractor who h
rights-type cases. but where there is a private party that is alleged to have forgot the government, -- alleged to have ripped off the government, that is the false claims act. host: a few issues that the false claims act. i -- that the false claims act prohibits. host: that according to the justice department. we are talking to colette matzzie about the false claims act, some of its history, and some of its applications today. matthew is up next on our line for democrats. thanks for calling...
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i heard the president talk about this and his own children, about the civil rights movement in the united states. those who don't remember, what do they take away? the memory of the man lives on, the legacy of the man lives on. how does the world, the education system in south africa. how do educators around the world. what will children learn of nelson mandela? look at many of the young faces when you were playing the music beforehand. many of those who are performing weren't alive in the '80s during the struggle. they weren't there when mandela was freed or the free elections in the early '90s. it's a fascinating question for me, when you say farewell and pay tribute to one of the greats of history, today all the tributes will be made, 10 and 20 years from now, what will the young people take from it? >> it's interesting to that point, john, during the president's remarks, he mentioned what is probably nelson mandela's most famous speech, no matter when you were born. during the trial that wound up sending him away on his sentence, he had so many famous lines. it was notable because it
i heard the president talk about this and his own children, about the civil rights movement in the united states. those who don't remember, what do they take away? the memory of the man lives on, the legacy of the man lives on. how does the world, the education system in south africa. how do educators around the world. what will children learn of nelson mandela? look at many of the young faces when you were playing the music beforehand. many of those who are performing weren't alive in the '80s...
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brown hosted him in his civil rights tour after he got out of prison. >> mandela came here in 1990, and 70,000 packed into the coliseum to see their hero and receive thanks for his activism. >> it is you, the people of the bay area, who have given me and my dedication hopes to continue to prosper. >> the bay area choir who performed for him in south africa
brown hosted him in his civil rights tour after he got out of prison. >> mandela came here in 1990, and 70,000 packed into the coliseum to see their hero and receive thanks for his activism. >> it is you, the people of the bay area, who have given me and my dedication hopes to continue to prosper. >> the bay area choir who performed for him in south africa
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of the security force, his name was -- i'm sure i'm not pronouncing it right. he was going to instigate a civil war as a way to forget this, you know, effort to dismantle apartheid. mandela got wind of it so the story goes, invited this man to his house, asked him he would like tea and he bought him tea. asked him if he wanted milk. he poured him milk. asked him if he want sugar and put the sugar in and stirred it. this is a man who was going to instigate civil war. already violence oversouth africa. streamists and whites. it was just a disaster. people say the fact the election went off at all in '94 was a miracle. mandela disarmed this man by having him over for tea. he left. no civil war, mr. mandela. >> we have spoken about how mandela learned the language of the oppressor and got into the mind of how africaners think and said with you may win the battle but not the war. look back at your history. >> a sense he learned it when he was a boy in those rural hills. he used to stick fight with his friend. there is a story about how in those stick fighting games
of the security force, his name was -- i'm sure i'm not pronouncing it right. he was going to instigate a civil war as a way to forget this, you know, effort to dismantle apartheid. mandela got wind of it so the story goes, invited this man to his house, asked him he would like tea and he bought him tea. asked him if he wanted milk. he poured him milk. asked him if he want sugar and put the sugar in and stirred it. this is a man who was going to instigate civil war. already violence oversouth...
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the slain civil rights leader closely watched what was going on in africa and inspired by him. joining me now the son of martin luther king, jr. it's great to have you with me, sir. your mom and your sister bernice, they all traveled with you as you attended the inauguration of mandela. tell us what it was like, that kind of impact that was had on you and your family in 1994 and what that meant knowing the history you were coming from here in america. >> first, i would say thank you for the opportunity. as we mourn this loss for our world. but i remember in 1986 actually protesting at the south african embassy along with my mother and sister where we were arrested. of course, in 1994 going to south africa twice, on two occasions, one during the electoral process and, of course, for the inauguration, which was, of course, a celebration, which was really, in a sense, earth shattering to see the first african head of state of that wonderful country who really taught us about the power of forgiveness. that is what i believe president mandela represented. that is what the legacy wil
the slain civil rights leader closely watched what was going on in africa and inspired by him. joining me now the son of martin luther king, jr. it's great to have you with me, sir. your mom and your sister bernice, they all traveled with you as you attended the inauguration of mandela. tell us what it was like, that kind of impact that was had on you and your family in 1994 and what that meant knowing the history you were coming from here in america. >> first, i would say thank you for...
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mary frann sis berry, the former commissioner of the civil rights commission, eeoc and robinson would transafrica. i was a kid during those days. they were organizing protests outside the south african embassy. my job was to help find and identify people who would get arrested, to keep the movement alive. it was a very tremendous moment and opportunity, but later i had an opportunity, working on a clinton/gore campaign and nelson mandela after visiting harlem in the 1990s, wanted to come to the inaugural of bill clinton. he had great affection and respect and admiration for bill and hillary clinton. i was an advanced person back during those days. i helped to escort him around. my good friend, yolanda, who was in that picture, it was a great moment. later i had an opportunity to go to south africa and other places to help train workers and volunteers who would conduct the first multiracial elections in south africa. he was authentic. he was a giant. you know, when you were around him, you felt very special. he was joyful. he had a sense of humor, but there was this dignity about him,
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he never saw himself -- i think particularly in america, so much of the american civil rights movement was reminding african-americans and still is, reminding young children of color, you are equal, you do deserve the exact same things. i think that made a huge difference. >> i think part of that was if you understand he was born in royalty. he was born to a certain manner. his self-concept, he that naturally and he never lost it. because he didn't have that insecurity, he didn't need all that to become a leader. his vanity never outran his sanity. >> talking about the legacy of nelson mandela, we're talking about how those qualities of grace, dignity, humility have been inherited or visited on later generations. i want to play an excerpt from your interview with the president last night where he himself takes a remarkably humble posture as far as being commander in chief, president of the united states. lets take a listen to that. >> the interesting thing about now having been president for five years. it makes you humbler as opposed to cockier as to what you as an individual can do.
he never saw himself -- i think particularly in america, so much of the american civil rights movement was reminding african-americans and still is, reminding young children of color, you are equal, you do deserve the exact same things. i think that made a huge difference. >> i think part of that was if you understand he was born in royalty. he was born to a certain manner. his self-concept, he that naturally and he never lost it. because he didn't have that insecurity, he didn't need all...
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when you talk about civil rights icons, the conversation ultimately turns to dr. martin luther king jr. well, dr. king never met nelson mandela. he did keep close tabs on the fight for equality in south africa. martin luther king iii said his constant fight for equality personified what me and my father often said, "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." martin luther king iii joining me now. i'm quoting your dad. this is bringing so many people of all walks to reflect ton a giant man's life and the market that he left. >> yes, it is. he personified more than anything else and taught us the power of forgiveness. love and forgiveness was the essence of nelson mandela. dignity. dignified presence. i remember, for example, on one occasion there were a number of us in atlanta at the king cen r center, and this was the second visit to atlanta, and maybe a few thousand people outside. as he came outside, everyone was trying to get his attention. he went directly to a young kid, about 5 or 6 years old, because he understood the future is as it relates to
when you talk about civil rights icons, the conversation ultimately turns to dr. martin luther king jr. well, dr. king never met nelson mandela. he did keep close tabs on the fight for equality in south africa. martin luther king iii said his constant fight for equality personified what me and my father often said, "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." martin luther king iii joining me now. i'm quoting your dad. this is bringing so many people of all walks to reflect...
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and somehow the movement here, the civil rights movement in our country deserves much credit for the change we now see in america, and in south africa. >> well, and reverend, to that point, that's why it is so interesting -- i think, and potentially enlightening, to see some of the political debate playing out more among republicans. but take a listen to more from former speaker newt gingrich, in doing what rick hertzburg was doing, embracing as a founding father in politics, one of the best things you could say about someone. take a listen. >> posted my statement on her facebook page and was amazed at some of the intensity, some of whom came back three and four and five times, repeating how angry they were. so i wrote my newsletter on friday, basically entitled it, "what would you have done." >> and he goes on to talk about what the legacy of mandela is being a revolutionary and freedom fighter and also a patriot. how do you looking at this now, national/international conversation, how do you think we're doing in remembering our history accurately with apartheid as a foreign policy
and somehow the movement here, the civil rights movement in our country deserves much credit for the change we now see in america, and in south africa. >> well, and reverend, to that point, that's why it is so interesting -- i think, and potentially enlightening, to see some of the political debate playing out more among republicans. but take a listen to more from former speaker newt gingrich, in doing what rick hertzburg was doing, embracing as a founding father in politics, one of the...
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we fought a civil war over this once before, you know, and i just don't think it is right. who --tion would be -- president obama when he severed -- when hed look for sat for 20 years and listen to reverend wright? guest: you know, i'm not quite sure how to answer that qu
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. ♪ >>> this morning, the world wakes to the news that a joint of human and civil rights is gone. nelson mandela, a guiding force, reve revered, forever changing history. >> recognize that apartheid has no future. >> he spent nearly three decades in prison, emerging to become the first black president of south africa. a father figure to his people. and to millions around the world. this morning, new reaction from every corner of the world. >> i cannot fully imagine my own life without the example that nelson mandela set. >> right now on "america this morning," abc news remembers
. ♪ >>> this morning, the world wakes to the news that a joint of human and civil rights is gone. nelson mandela, a guiding force, reve revered, forever changing history. >> recognize that apartheid has no future. >> he spent nearly three decades in prison, emerging to become the first black president of south africa. a father figure to his people. and to millions around the world. this morning, new reaction from every corner of the world. >> i cannot fully imagine...
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advance civil rights at home and go through all that we went through, including the martyrdom of martin luther king, who clearly, like gandhi, like mandela, was inspired by gandhi, and not stick up for south africa. >> and you did indeed. he was grateful to you for that. was there one piece of advice that he gave you that really sticks out in your mind? >> yes. when he told me -- he basically was saying, you know if you're in public life and you have public responsibilities, you cannot be free and effective unless you have no personal feelings of anger. he said, you know, you have to -- you have to never give up your mind and heart. it requires a mental and emotional discipline to live in the present and the future, and keep an open door and open mind and an open heart to everyone. i remember one day, oh, about a month after the whole impeachment business was over, henry hyde, who had run the whole show, unbelievably enough, maybe a few months after, it was shortly after, asked for a meeting at the white house, for something that he was interested in. he brought a delegation in. my staf
advance civil rights at home and go through all that we went through, including the martyrdom of martin luther king, who clearly, like gandhi, like mandela, was inspired by gandhi, and not stick up for south africa. >> and you did indeed. he was grateful to you for that. was there one piece of advice that he gave you that really sticks out in your mind? >> yes. when he told me -- he basically was saying, you know if you're in public life and you have public responsibilities, you...
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the civil rights act didn't end racism. i don't think this is going to end homophobia or transphobia. >> reporter: zachary kiesch, news 4. >>> right now at 6:00, d.c. mayor vincent gray talks up his administration after announcing he will seek re-election but gets testy with reporters who challenge him on skal dal allegations. >> i'm done. i'm done, okay, i'm done. >>> plus, a d.c. cop facing charges of child pornography for pictures he took on the job. why there could be more victims. >>> president obama taking on critics of the affordable care act. >> the bottom line is, this law is working and will work into the future. >>> good evening, everybody. i'm jim handly in for jim vance. >> i'm doreen gentzler. we begin with the fast moving race for d.c. mayor a day after vincent gray filed for re-election. reporters peppered him with questions about a federal probe of his 2010 campaign for mayor. tom sherwood reports all gray wanted to talk about was what's ahead. tom? >> the mayor is proud of the city's economic development,
the civil rights act didn't end racism. i don't think this is going to end homophobia or transphobia. >> reporter: zachary kiesch, news 4. >>> right now at 6:00, d.c. mayor vincent gray talks up his administration after announcing he will seek re-election but gets testy with reporters who challenge him on skal dal allegations. >> i'm done. i'm done, okay, i'm done. >>> plus, a d.c. cop facing charges of child pornography for pictures he took on the job. why there...
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although he did relax a little bit when i told him about my experience in the civil rights movement, but it brought to mind for him maya angelou, do you know her? talked about how he had -- they had read her work in prison. but then, as i watched him over the years as he spent more and more time in the outside world, he became a little more relaxed and talked more and more about what it was like in prison. and talk more and more about his own vision. he was always a very humble man. he never really -- although he was the leader, he never took credit. for example, when i asked him at a day back in his yard a few days after prison, when everybody thought he was going to be president, do you foresee a time when you will become president of this country? he said, well, you know, that's up to my -- i'm a loyal member of the african national congress and whatever they decide. behind the scene i understand he could rule with a kind of iron hand when necessary. but the face -- his face to the public was always of a genial giant. >> way he comported himself and humility is very genuine descri
although he did relax a little bit when i told him about my experience in the civil rights movement, but it brought to mind for him maya angelou, do you know her? talked about how he had -- they had read her work in prison. but then, as i watched him over the years as he spent more and more time in the outside world, he became a little more relaxed and talked more and more about what it was like in prison. and talk more and more about his own vision. he was always a very humble man. he never...
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donna, donna brazile is here, nelson mandela, the civil rights movement in the united states, what was going on in south africa, you and i are old enough to remember those days, the role and as christiane accurately points out, that all of us played in trying to move south africa in a better direction. you remember those days very vividly. >> well, the apartheid regime was a brutal regime. it was a violent regime. and the goal of folks in america, especially young people, was to educate, was to mobilize and to get more sanctions, to get corporations doing business in south africa to put pressure on the south african government. clearly it worked, because after years and years of struggle, finally in 1990, we broke the apartheid regime but it was a long and brutal struggle. >> here's a picture, take a look at this. >>> give us the background of that photo. >> mr. mandela came to the understand to attend the clinton inaugural. he was very close for the clinton family. in fact the clintons visited the mandelas early this year and last year, and when secretary of state clinton visited sout
donna, donna brazile is here, nelson mandela, the civil rights movement in the united states, what was going on in south africa, you and i are old enough to remember those days, the role and as christiane accurately points out, that all of us played in trying to move south africa in a better direction. you remember those days very vividly. >> well, the apartheid regime was a brutal regime. it was a violent regime. and the goal of folks in america, especially young people, was to educate,...
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rights movement in the south. he said oh, do you know maya angelou? she meant so much to me, reading her in prison. you were in his heart and mind all those years. >> he told charlene gault that people had been slipping my books into him all the years. i spoke with one journalist who said, can you imagine being in the hell hole of a south african prison reading the caged bird. >> this means so much to us. i know you've been through a lot in the last days. we just want to say thank you for recollections, thank you for your poetry, and thank you for being with us today. >> thank you miss mitchell. i admire. i watch you with great gratitude and appreciation. >> that is an enormous honor. >> that you very much for your own gentleness. you report on some hellish situations around the world but i never hear the hell in your voice. thank you. >> thank you for that. very much so. >> thank you. >> good-bye to you. coming up next, nelson mandela's leadership, his legacy. but first "nbc nightly news" anchor brian williams sa
rights movement in the south. he said oh, do you know maya angelou? she meant so much to me, reading her in prison. you were in his heart and mind all those years. >> he told charlene gault that people had been slipping my books into him all the years. i spoke with one journalist who said, can you imagine being in the hell hole of a south african prison reading the caged bird. >> this means so much to us. i know you've been through a lot in the last days. we just want to say thank...
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my guests, tom brokaw, civil rights leader reverend jesse jackson. and harry smith talks to p
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>> all right, i know fort sumter was the civil war, and the alamo was somewhere down in texas, and texas wasn't around during the revolutionary war, i don't think, so the burning of washington and the boston massacre. name that shifts the blame. all right, i'm gonna go with... jumping the question 'cause i'm not sure. >> it's my boo. >> [laughter] >> you gonna hit me with my whole move. i was all like, "what are you gonna do? oh, you gonna jump the question." so you jumped over. not really sure, decided to jump over it. >> not really sure, yeah. >> all right, it is now out of play. you thinkin' it was possibly "b," 'cause that's the one you would have, if you would have guessed. >> yes, if i would have guessed. >> what is the correct answer? it is indeed "b," the boston massacre. again, it's double money week. hopefully this money is small. what'd she jump over? oh, well, jumped over $1,000. that's all right. when we come back, clarice is going for her double money question. millionaire in just a second. it's so much more than coffee. brew the love. keurig. on the table by not choosing t
>> all right, i know fort sumter was the civil war, and the alamo was somewhere down in texas, and texas wasn't around during the revolutionary war, i don't think, so the burning of washington and the boston massacre. name that shifts the blame. all right, i'm gonna go with... jumping the question 'cause i'm not sure. >> it's my boo. >> [laughter] >> you gonna hit me with my whole move. i was all like, "what are you gonna do? oh, you gonna jump the question."...
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the charges range from civil rights violations to blatant lying. current sheriff says 99.9% of his deputies do the right thing and that nobody is above the law. >>> rescuers are desperately trying to find a couple and four missing children in nevada. had they vanished after going out to play in the snow. the search is taking place in pershing county in northwest nevada where the temperature has dipped to below zero. cnn's pamela brown is following the story. tell us more, pamela. >> carol, i just go got off the phone with authorities y s iies pershing and they say no trace of this couple and the children. thermal imaging helicopters were out overnight searching for them. 34-year-old james glanton and 25-year-old christina macintee and their two children 3 and 4 years old and niece and nephew, 4 and 10 years old. authorities say no one has been located yet. it really is a race against the clock today, as search and rescue teams from surrounding counties resume the aerial and ground search. they're going to be looking for the family's silver jeep wit
the charges range from civil rights violations to blatant lying. current sheriff says 99.9% of his deputies do the right thing and that nobody is above the law. >>> rescuers are desperately trying to find a couple and four missing children in nevada. had they vanished after going out to play in the snow. the search is taking place in pershing county in northwest nevada where the temperature has dipped to below zero. cnn's pamela brown is following the story. tell us more, pamela....
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used in ways to undermine your future, your health, your voting rights, your public education, your rights in the court system. it's just wrong. and so, what we're doing is making sure people know. how they choose to spend their money after that will be their own determination, like in civil disobedience, their own free will and accord, but people must know, this must be exposed. art pope has gone from being a king-maker, a private person to now a north carolina employee. he's the budget director, one of the most powerful positions in any state. and budgets are moral documents. and what he is promoting is constitutionally inconsistent, morally indefensible and economically insane. and people need to know how he's doing it with the money that comes out of poor communities and minority communities. >> reverend william barber, north carolina naacp president, the leader of the moral mondays protest, which brought so much national spotlight to the very dramatic changes that north carolina's seen over these last couple years. thank you for your time tonight, sir. i hope you stay in touch with us
used in ways to undermine your future, your health, your voting rights, your public education, your rights in the court system. it's just wrong. and so, what we're doing is making sure people know. how they choose to spend their money after that will be their own determination, like in civil disobedience, their own free will and accord, but people must know, this must be exposed. art pope has gone from being a king-maker, a private person to now a north carolina employee. he's the budget...
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we should feel just as strongly as defending human right activist whether they are in egypt, russia, china, vietnam nam or any other country who are persecuted for religious beliefs or personal beliefs. these are rights we take for advantage. we should not hesitate to speak up when those rights are violated. i have met some activist who have been subjected to brutal y brutality, isolation, torture. and i am in awe by their courage and spirit and by the fact they never give up. we have a responsibility to support them. when they are in prison, this is something democrats and republicans set aside party labels, join together and work for their release. here at home, we have yet to fully recover from the effects of the 9-11 attacks. we continue to mourn the losses of innocent lives that day. we do remain vigilant against the threat of fume future attacks. but we cannot ignore it damage done by the policies put in place after 9-11. before 9-11 i doubt any of us could imagine torture, something members in both congress departments, have condemned woob would be defends by top officials. we
we should feel just as strongly as defending human right activist whether they are in egypt, russia, china, vietnam nam or any other country who are persecuted for religious beliefs or personal beliefs. these are rights we take for advantage. we should not hesitate to speak up when those rights are violated. i have met some activist who have been subjected to brutal y brutality, isolation, torture. and i am in awe by their courage and spirit and by the fact they never give up. we have a...
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rights in the united states and around the world. and nelson mandela told cnn veteran bernie shaw how he wanted to be remembered after his death. bernie is here. we'll bring you some of that very emotional interview just before nelson mandela was sworn in as president. >> i, nelson mandela, do hereby swear to be faithful to the republic of south africa and do solemnly and sincerely promise at all times to promote that which will advance and to oppose all that may harm the republic. i don't just make things for a living i take pride in them. so when my moderate to severe chronic plaque psoriasis was also on display, i'd had it. i finally had a serious talk with my dermatologist. this time, he prescribed humira-adalimumab. humira helps to clear the surface of my skin by actually working inside my body. in clinical trials, most adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis saw 75% skin clearance. and the majority of people were clear or almost clear in just 4 months. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tubercu
rights in the united states and around the world. and nelson mandela told cnn veteran bernie shaw how he wanted to be remembered after his death. bernie is here. we'll bring you some of that very emotional interview just before nelson mandela was sworn in as president. >> i, nelson mandela, do hereby swear to be faithful to the republic of south africa and do solemnly and sincerely promise at all times to promote that which will advance and to oppose all that may harm the republic. i...
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so i do believe that children need to be civilized, we have to open our hearts and minds and teach them to be caring and considerate human beings, but that does not mean that forcing boys to be exactly like girls is right, it doesn't mean being girls as if they are failing ophelia's at and for the most part, and this is a radical thing to say, most of them are quite healthy. and including most boys. we have to preserve a distinction, which is why sociologists have to do speed have a distinction between healthy masculinity. a young man that displays pathological masculinity, he shows his manhood by being destructive and tearing things apart, just basically -- a reign of terror. and the boy that has been healthy is the opposite. he is the opposite and he builds and he doesn't prey upon people he protects. and i still believe that that is the majority of men that i have known, and if i look at the data, the majority of men in the united states, they are -- they have been displaying healthy masculinity. the boys playing cops and robbers, it's terrible to confuse that with pathology, but wit
so i do believe that children need to be civilized, we have to open our hearts and minds and teach them to be caring and considerate human beings, but that does not mean that forcing boys to be exactly like girls is right, it doesn't mean being girls as if they are failing ophelia's at and for the most part, and this is a radical thing to say, most of them are quite healthy. and including most boys. we have to preserve a distinction, which is why sociologists have to do speed have a distinction...
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under my hat as lawyer, i've had to persuade civil rights groups to take particular positions when, for example, in new york city once an organization wanted to stop george lincoln rockwell, a terrible racist, from speaking in a park there, and i had a very difficult time persuading them that that's probably the -- trying to keep him from being licensed to speak is probably the best way to give him a big audience. why not just ignore him? and the same thing with books. you know, sometimes i know authors can't get any better advertisement than somebody trying to keep their books off the shelves. but when it does happen -- and it does happen frequently -- we're really talking about one of the most dangerous robs in our culture -- problems in our culture, and it is the stifling of ideas and taken to the extreme in nazi germany when they burn books, we see where that goes. so my excerpt isn't as delightful as the last one. it concerns the problems of war, and it comes from a book almost 100 years old about war, "all quiet on the western front." before going over to see -- [inaudible] we pac
under my hat as lawyer, i've had to persuade civil rights groups to take particular positions when, for example, in new york city once an organization wanted to stop george lincoln rockwell, a terrible racist, from speaking in a park there, and i had a very difficult time persuading them that that's probably the -- trying to keep him from being licensed to speak is probably the best way to give him a big audience. why not just ignore him? and the same thing with books. you know, sometimes i...
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it's about civil rights. >> dave? >> this is the mood certainly in maryland and parts of the you state to be more welcoming, more open, gay marriage, the revolution and thinking on gay people and people who have other issues in that regard -- not issues, but transgenders, people like that. just another move in the direction. hyattsville today could be a lot of other cities tomorrow. >> i tend to agree. i don't think there's -- it's notable that this step has been taken. but unless it leads to a larger, more broader sort of conversation about discrimination generally, it may just be something localized. this is the kind of thing i expect out of tacoma park. surprised that hyatts vilville took -- >> i like people that call it park. >> discrimination is discrimination. >> dave mcconnell, jerry. thank you for being with us. i'm pat lawson muse. that's it for reporter's notebook. news 4 today continues. >>> we're keeping close watch on a winter storm. a live look over the potomac river right now at 6:30, courtesy of our ca
it's about civil rights. >> dave? >> this is the mood certainly in maryland and parts of the you state to be more welcoming, more open, gay marriage, the revolution and thinking on gay people and people who have other issues in that regard -- not issues, but transgenders, people like that. just another move in the direction. hyattsville today could be a lot of other cities tomorrow. >> i tend to agree. i don't think there's -- it's notable that this step has been taken. but...
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>>> plus, cnn on the front lines right now in syria's civil war. our own cnn crew gets rare access to one of the most brutal conflicts on the planet right now. there are seniors who have left hundreds of dollars of savings on the table by not choosing the right medicare d plan. no one could have left this much money here. whoo-hoo-hoo! yet many seniors who compare medicare d plans realize they can save hundreds of dollars. cvs/pharmacy wants to help you save on medicare expenses. talk to your cvs pharmacist, call, or go to cvs.com/compare to get your free, personalized plan comparison today. call, go online, or visit your local store today. millions have raised their hand for the proven relief of the purple pill. and that relief could be in your hand. for many, nexium helps relieve heartburn symptoms from acid reflux disease. find out how you can save at purplepill.com. there is risk of bone fracture and low magnesium levels. side effects may include headache, abdominal pain, and diarrhea. if you have persistent diarrhea, contact your doctor right
>>> plus, cnn on the front lines right now in syria's civil war. our own cnn crew gets rare access to one of the most brutal conflicts on the planet right now. there are seniors who have left hundreds of dollars of savings on the table by not choosing the right medicare d plan. no one could have left this much money here. whoo-hoo-hoo! yet many seniors who compare medicare d plans realize they can save hundreds of dollars. cvs/pharmacy wants to help you save on medicare expenses. talk...
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party right now. >> powerful republican senators were forced to defend their seats against their own party. >> there's the tea party side, and then there's the, you know, chris christie side. >> it ain't going to be jobs, sweetheart. >> i think christie is a promising figure. >> your rear end is going to get thrown in jail, idiot. >> i don't agree with him on a lot of things. i'm more conservative than he is. >> do you think he'll blow up on the campaign trail? >> are you stupid? >> i don't know him that well. i had lunch with him once. i wasn't a fan of the way he welcomed barack obama to new jersey when the hurricane hit. >> texas tea party candidate stockman has filed to run against john cornyn. >> a lot of people think that's healthy debate. >> he brings ted nugent to the state of the union. >> and you get a better end result when you do have people debating. >> fights taking place within the party and that's the way it should be. >> i don't always agree with bill o'reilly. >> the republican party is all over the place. >> but this time on obama care, immigration, i absolutely ag
party right now. >> powerful republican senators were forced to defend their seats against their own party. >> there's the tea party side, and then there's the, you know, chris christie side. >> it ain't going to be jobs, sweetheart. >> i think christie is a promising figure. >> your rear end is going to get thrown in jail, idiot. >> i don't agree with him on a lot of things. i'm more conservative than he is. >> do you think he'll blow up on the...
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. >> miami gardens police chief won't say much about sampson's case, due to the pending civil rights lawsuit filed against his department. the department has conducted it's own investigation since last year. the chief says the department uses data, not profiling, to fight crime. >> you got a black chief, african-american chief, african-american mayor, african-american city manager. that does not make sense. a predominantly trick american city, i know the department didn't do anything wrong. >> it's an aggressive policing approach, focusing on small crime like trespassing to prevent bigger ones. the department's zero tolerance policing program is effective. miami gardens was the 15t 15th most violent city of its size, last year dropped to the 40th. >> police must take con terrence about racial profiling seriously or lose local trust i don't by abusing the rights of so many people systematically, you alienate communities and this is a breeding ground for crime. >> dis enchanted, sampson now looks at the police as a potential jailer, not a protector. >> they have spent about $20,000 obt
. >> miami gardens police chief won't say much about sampson's case, due to the pending civil rights lawsuit filed against his department. the department has conducted it's own investigation since last year. the chief says the department uses data, not profiling, to fight crime. >> you got a black chief, african-american chief, african-american mayor, african-american city manager. that does not make sense. a predominantly trick american city, i know the department didn't do...
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today i rise to pay tribute to a woman that's considered the modern mother of the civil rights movement, rosa parks. this past sunday, we celebrated the 58th anniversary of rosa parks refusing to give up her seat on that bus in montgomery, alabama. i am so proud to stand here from the great state of ohio because it was the great state of ohio that was the first state in this nation to name december 1 rosa parks day. on thursday and friday of this week in our district, we will bring people from all over the state to pay tribute to her. and we will bring in more than 600 little children who will learn about civil rights and understand the value of working together. the last day, 1955, she started something larger than herself. she stood -- she sat down so we could stand up. mr. speaker, it is my honor to be a part of the legislation that created december 1 in ohio as rosa parks day. thank you and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. for what purpose does the gentleman from pennsylvania seek recognition? >> i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one
today i rise to pay tribute to a woman that's considered the modern mother of the civil rights movement, rosa parks. this past sunday, we celebrated the 58th anniversary of rosa parks refusing to give up her seat on that bus in montgomery, alabama. i am so proud to stand here from the great state of ohio because it was the great state of ohio that was the first state in this nation to name december 1 rosa parks day. on thursday and friday of this week in our district, we will bring people from...
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this could become, and gloria's dead right, this could now become the latest exhibit, if you will, in what is a philosophical civil war. >> and brianna keilar, if it does pass the house, the senate then has to sign it into law. are you getting any reaction yet from white house officials to this dole? >> we don't have any reaction from the white house yet at this point. i think they're waiting for the formal announcement of exactly what is in the deal and what is not in the deal. but i do think that president obama and white house officials are going to feel that this reenforces the strategy that he took during that battle with the government shutdown. that he wasn't going to give when it came to funding for the government or when it came to the debt ceiling. he wasn't going to give on obama care. he was in a little bit, you could argue, sort of intransjents. he said no, i'm not negotiating on this. and once this was all said and done in october, he said that he didn't think there was going to be another fight. so if that is the case, i think they're going to see that as justifying his
this could become, and gloria's dead right, this could now become the latest exhibit, if you will, in what is a philosophical civil war. >> and brianna keilar, if it does pass the house, the senate then has to sign it into law. are you getting any reaction yet from white house officials to this dole? >> we don't have any reaction from the white house yet at this point. i think they're waiting for the formal announcement of exactly what is in the deal and what is not in the deal. but...